hello everyone
I've been contacted by the people behind the demonic confidence program, and they requested that I take down this blog, the reason being that, the program is designed so that the user does not read ahead or listhen ahead for the missions that lie ahead. It's designed to take you by shock and you're only meant to listhen to mission on the day you are supposed to do them. This gives the subconscious a shock and allows you to do the mission better, than to pre-plan everything and possibly psyche yourself out of it.
I really want to comply, as I benifitied from the program a lot, and I want others to benifit from the program as well. But I have spent a great deal of time and effort writing these out, and I do not want to get rid of them.
Therefore I'd like to put this notice up for everyone.
DO NOT READ THIS BLOG IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PARTICIPATING IN THE DEMONIC CONFIDENCE PROGRAM, BY READING AHEAD YOU ARE POTENTIALLY DESTROYING YOUR CHANCE OF BENIFITING FROM THE PROGRAM.
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Monday, July 14, 2008
Tuesday, January 30, 2007
Day 19
OK This is apparently the hardest mission of the DEMONIC CONFIDENCE programme. Day 19, the day which all students dread, I actually found this to be the most fun. I approached HB8+, I found that the ugly girls would have hang-ups with sex, and would take this personally, In a bizarre and weird sort of way I had AA on ugly girls, but not the attractive ones.
Task: approach and run the blow-out routine:
Excuse me, I want to tell you that I find you extremely attractive
I know this is very straightforward, but that’s the kind of guy I am.
So, would you like to have sex with me?
I did 50 approaches; I only got 1 aggressive rejection, and got a yes on my 38th approach. The average is that 1 in 50 women say yes. The fact that I had to do this solo, and motivate myself to approach like this made it all seem much harder.
I just loved the shift in their facial expression when I ran the opener. Initially they had big smiles on their faces, and probably felt so validated. The assumed that I was just another afc falling on my knees for them. But as soon as I mentioned sex, most of the time their jaws just dropped and they lost composure.
I went out to Central London for this mission, which is my usual sarging location. I should have taken heed of Archer’s advice and go somewhere else, because I couldn’t really let myself go – in the fear of getting chucked out/banned from venues, which will come back to haunt me cos I won’t be able to sarge these places anymore.
After I opened my first set, I knew this would be an interesting day, I was surprised that I didn’t even need to warm up for this, and I just walked up saw a girl smoking a cigarette and ran my lines. She said ‘no thank you’.
A mixed set of 2 girls and 1 boy were walking by and they overheard me do my lines and burst out laughing. I ejected from my set and approached this 3-mixed-set, I didn’t even have to open them they opened me, Girl1 to Girl2: This gentlemen here is so classy did you hear what he had to say to the woman over there? Both girls and the guy were laughing, but I didn’t laugh I kept hold of my frame and said to girl1 – “so do YOU want to fuck me?”, she said no thanks… and continued laughing.
Also there is a big difference between running these lines with a smile on your face and treating it like a joke, and running it seriously – with a friendly smile, but SERIOUS INTENT. This difference although seems subtle, is actually significant. I believe that when you treat it as a joke you’re trying to hedge the rejection away from yourself and onto the material, which doesn’t help our purpose. It’s a defence mechanism which will act as a barrier to the learning process.
I ran these lines with a deep booming powerful voice. I purposefully projected my voice very loud so that people around me can hear me. I had inner game issues where I was afraid of chatting up women in front of other people. I wanted to kill this wussyness totally today and made sure everyone can hear me. What I realised was,
a) People actually respect you for doing it, 2 black guys on separate instances went out of their way to congratulate me, one guy gave me a big thumbs up and said “respect!” , and another guy did a knuckle rub with me (dunno if that’s what you call it, but you get what I mean).
b) Like David D says “everybody has problems, so nobody really cares about your problem”. So fucking true, just ignore everyone else – they do not matter to you. They may look for a short period of time, but they will forget about you pretty soon.
I made the mistake of going into department stores and running these lines, I only went in for a browse but I saw a HB9 and I knew I had to do it, to fight my fear of attractive women. She responded with “are you serious?”, I said “absolutely!”, she replied back “do you want me to call security?” I replied “maybe not”, and ejected, her colleague had to cover her face cos she was laughing so much.
Another time there was a 7 set, in a train, again this was an opportunity that I didn’t want to miss. So I had to approach in order to fight my fear of being overheard chatting up a woman. So I walked from one end of the carriage to the other. I face the most attractive girl out of all 7 and ran my lines. The girl felt so validated that her head was inflating like a pumpkin; it was probably so big that she would have trouble walking through the door, initially anyway. So when I mentioned sex her jaw just dropped and she looked into my eyes, I was staring deeply into hers without flinching. One of her friends was so shocked that she went OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH! Like she was having a mini-orgasm. Then I smiled and she smiled too, but she said no thanks. I responded “is that a maybe?” she replied no I’m afraid that a no, but I have to say you have some balls Mr! Then I walked away back to my end of the carriage, and I heard one girl say to another “call him back”, but they didn’t. I didn’t know where to take it from there anyway so I was pretty stuck and had no choice but to eject.
OK This was the best approach, there were 2 girls, I modified the line slightly it went like this.
Hey girls, I must say, I find you two both incredibly attractive, I’m not the sort of guy that beats around the bush - I like to get to the point. So, would you 2 like to have sex with me?
One of the girl, immediately responds “go on then!”. then I LOST MY FRAMMMEEEE!!!!!. MY JAWS DROPPED THIS TIME!!! HAHAHAHA I was standing there looking both ways into thin air. I was completely taken back, I wasn’t ready for this at all. I said to her “What!! You’re meant to say NO”. I completely destroyed the attraction that I built and they responded with “yeah yeah, you’re all talk, no action! Good bye and happy new year!”. I’m pretty sure they were both quite serious and were ready to fuck me, but I ruined the vibe totally.
So this is what I’ve been up to on new years eve, I found that later on towards the evening, it got too easy as the girls were in a friendly mood ‘cos of the new years, the situation wasn’t really ideal so I stopped the mission and went home. Because the women were more sociable and were responding artificially, I would have probably gotton laid from this if I was to stay out and keep doing loads of approaches, but I was very tired from the lack of sleep and went home at 10pm. I’ve been busting my ass for a whole 3 weeks and was getting crap sleep.
From now on I'll be going out lots and practicing my approachs SeduceNatural.com is a fantastic resource for learning how to get girls, and I'll be using it in my quest to meet lots of hot girls.
Task: approach and run the blow-out routine:
Excuse me, I want to tell you that I find you extremely attractive
I know this is very straightforward, but that’s the kind of guy I am.
So, would you like to have sex with me?
I did 50 approaches; I only got 1 aggressive rejection, and got a yes on my 38th approach. The average is that 1 in 50 women say yes. The fact that I had to do this solo, and motivate myself to approach like this made it all seem much harder.
I just loved the shift in their facial expression when I ran the opener. Initially they had big smiles on their faces, and probably felt so validated. The assumed that I was just another afc falling on my knees for them. But as soon as I mentioned sex, most of the time their jaws just dropped and they lost composure.
I went out to Central London for this mission, which is my usual sarging location. I should have taken heed of Archer’s advice and go somewhere else, because I couldn’t really let myself go – in the fear of getting chucked out/banned from venues, which will come back to haunt me cos I won’t be able to sarge these places anymore.
After I opened my first set, I knew this would be an interesting day, I was surprised that I didn’t even need to warm up for this, and I just walked up saw a girl smoking a cigarette and ran my lines. She said ‘no thank you’.
A mixed set of 2 girls and 1 boy were walking by and they overheard me do my lines and burst out laughing. I ejected from my set and approached this 3-mixed-set, I didn’t even have to open them they opened me, Girl1 to Girl2: This gentlemen here is so classy did you hear what he had to say to the woman over there? Both girls and the guy were laughing, but I didn’t laugh I kept hold of my frame and said to girl1 – “so do YOU want to fuck me?”, she said no thanks… and continued laughing.
Also there is a big difference between running these lines with a smile on your face and treating it like a joke, and running it seriously – with a friendly smile, but SERIOUS INTENT. This difference although seems subtle, is actually significant. I believe that when you treat it as a joke you’re trying to hedge the rejection away from yourself and onto the material, which doesn’t help our purpose. It’s a defence mechanism which will act as a barrier to the learning process.
I ran these lines with a deep booming powerful voice. I purposefully projected my voice very loud so that people around me can hear me. I had inner game issues where I was afraid of chatting up women in front of other people. I wanted to kill this wussyness totally today and made sure everyone can hear me. What I realised was,
a) People actually respect you for doing it, 2 black guys on separate instances went out of their way to congratulate me, one guy gave me a big thumbs up and said “respect!” , and another guy did a knuckle rub with me (dunno if that’s what you call it, but you get what I mean).
b) Like David D says “everybody has problems, so nobody really cares about your problem”. So fucking true, just ignore everyone else – they do not matter to you. They may look for a short period of time, but they will forget about you pretty soon.
I made the mistake of going into department stores and running these lines, I only went in for a browse but I saw a HB9 and I knew I had to do it, to fight my fear of attractive women. She responded with “are you serious?”, I said “absolutely!”, she replied back “do you want me to call security?” I replied “maybe not”, and ejected, her colleague had to cover her face cos she was laughing so much.
Another time there was a 7 set, in a train, again this was an opportunity that I didn’t want to miss. So I had to approach in order to fight my fear of being overheard chatting up a woman. So I walked from one end of the carriage to the other. I face the most attractive girl out of all 7 and ran my lines. The girl felt so validated that her head was inflating like a pumpkin; it was probably so big that she would have trouble walking through the door, initially anyway. So when I mentioned sex her jaw just dropped and she looked into my eyes, I was staring deeply into hers without flinching. One of her friends was so shocked that she went OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH! Like she was having a mini-orgasm. Then I smiled and she smiled too, but she said no thanks. I responded “is that a maybe?” she replied no I’m afraid that a no, but I have to say you have some balls Mr! Then I walked away back to my end of the carriage, and I heard one girl say to another “call him back”, but they didn’t. I didn’t know where to take it from there anyway so I was pretty stuck and had no choice but to eject.
OK This was the best approach, there were 2 girls, I modified the line slightly it went like this.
Hey girls, I must say, I find you two both incredibly attractive, I’m not the sort of guy that beats around the bush - I like to get to the point. So, would you 2 like to have sex with me?
One of the girl, immediately responds “go on then!”. then I LOST MY FRAMMMEEEE!!!!!. MY JAWS DROPPED THIS TIME!!! HAHAHAHA I was standing there looking both ways into thin air. I was completely taken back, I wasn’t ready for this at all. I said to her “What!! You’re meant to say NO”. I completely destroyed the attraction that I built and they responded with “yeah yeah, you’re all talk, no action! Good bye and happy new year!”. I’m pretty sure they were both quite serious and were ready to fuck me, but I ruined the vibe totally.
So this is what I’ve been up to on new years eve, I found that later on towards the evening, it got too easy as the girls were in a friendly mood ‘cos of the new years, the situation wasn’t really ideal so I stopped the mission and went home. Because the women were more sociable and were responding artificially, I would have probably gotton laid from this if I was to stay out and keep doing loads of approaches, but I was very tired from the lack of sleep and went home at 10pm. I’ve been busting my ass for a whole 3 weeks and was getting crap sleep.
From now on I'll be going out lots and practicing my approachs SeduceNatural.com is a fantastic resource for learning how to get girls, and I'll be using it in my quest to meet lots of hot girls.
Saturday, January 20, 2007
Day 18
Task: Open with sexual interest, ask for coffee venue change and then if possible get the girl to change venue with me.
I found this challenge quite hard to start off with, It’s very easy on paper (it seemed at the time). Giving a sexual comment right from the start isn’t a matter of just saying the words, because you are really exposing your ego and putting yourself out there. It is very tough to do I realised, firstly it put my ego on the line, to admit to a girl that ‘hey I like you’ right from the start. The vibe is very different and in order to make this work you really have to be smooth with your delivery and everything else.
Archer said, it’s OK if no girl says yes to the coffee date, I suppose it’s expected because the ASD gets raises pretty high, after the opener.
I was fixated in doing the 30 approaches and going home, I made excuses for myself on an occasion, I approached a 2 set and they were very open and I guess they didn’t mind going for coffee with me. I just didn’t push for it enough because it wasn’t a requirement for the mission.
I have realised now that when I am being pushed and have a goal in my head of what I want I need to do, I can achieve it or go very close to doing so. But my default state is to stay within my comfort zone. I really need to start setting some goals now because I won’t improve in game at all if I become so relaxed with this. I need to push my limits and really go for it.
Anyway 30 sets and I head home, nothing important to declare.
I found this challenge quite hard to start off with, It’s very easy on paper (it seemed at the time). Giving a sexual comment right from the start isn’t a matter of just saying the words, because you are really exposing your ego and putting yourself out there. It is very tough to do I realised, firstly it put my ego on the line, to admit to a girl that ‘hey I like you’ right from the start. The vibe is very different and in order to make this work you really have to be smooth with your delivery and everything else.
Archer said, it’s OK if no girl says yes to the coffee date, I suppose it’s expected because the ASD gets raises pretty high, after the opener.
I was fixated in doing the 30 approaches and going home, I made excuses for myself on an occasion, I approached a 2 set and they were very open and I guess they didn’t mind going for coffee with me. I just didn’t push for it enough because it wasn’t a requirement for the mission.
I have realised now that when I am being pushed and have a goal in my head of what I want I need to do, I can achieve it or go very close to doing so. But my default state is to stay within my comfort zone. I really need to start setting some goals now because I won’t improve in game at all if I become so relaxed with this. I need to push my limits and really go for it.
Anyway 30 sets and I head home, nothing important to declare.
Day 17
Task: Interact with a girl, using a pickup method of my choice, use SOI and venue change to a coffee shop.
I failed the mission, I think. I couldn’t venue change. But I #-closed 2 girls. I found this challenge very tough because I don’t have much game so I found it generally a bit difficult to get a girl to change locations with me.
I tried to do a very quick crash course on Juggler Method and try and learn as much as I can and complete the mission. I opened sets, got commitment from them and just generally vibed and tried to push for a venue change.
I got along very well with one girl, and I said “we should go grab a coffee together!”, but I didn’t lead, and left it for her to respond. Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! She even said ‘yes we should’. But I wasn’t convinced it was a strong Yes, or a polite yes. She told me she’d like to go for a coffee some other day though.
She LJBF’d be on the close by adding “hey you know what, it would be great if you could come and work with us, we need an accountant” [I’m a trainee accountant], I think she changed the context of the close from a seductive close into a formal close, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, time limit up, I couldn’t push for a close, I met up with a couple of wings in Leicester square and we had great fun as usual running loads of sets.
On the way home on the train I decided to mess around a bit, I saw a girl who looked familiar to me, it’s almost like all the girls look familiar now, cos I’ve approached so many girls now, so I didn’t let her familiar looks bother me.
Tiger: Hey, how you doin? [like Joey from friends]
Her: Heeeeeeey! [a bit too friendly]
Tiger: You’re really friendly have we met before?
Her: Yes!
Tiger: Really?
Her: Yes, hahaha
Tiger: Where have we me before? Sorry I get to meet loads of people every day I can’t recall exactly how we met
Her: Well, you approached me at work and asked for recommendations for a special gift for special someone.
At this point I’ve realised that I’ve approached her before, I went inside John Lewis one day and asked her for advice on buying a vibrator for a female colleague, and that I want to get a rampant rabbit [the king daddy of vibrators] but was a bit intimidated by it’s size.
Tiger: Hahahahahahahaha
Tiger: so how’s it like working for John Lewis
Girl: Blah Blah…..
Tiger: That’s really cool, I’m not really like that I’m not a very sociable person, I could never survive in a job like that [being sarcastic],
Girl: [buys into sarcastic role] Yeah I get that vibe from you, you don’t look very sociable
Girl: fluff,
I’m getting loads of IOI’s from her at this point, can’t remember exactly what I did, but it involved a lot of C+F and teasing.
Couple of minutes later I realise I’m going the wrong way [I was heading home], I’ve gone as far as 2 stops the wrong direction. FUCK! SO I quickly cut the conversation short and say bye and leave. I should have stayed and carried on, cos I would have got my coffee date, the girl was on her way home from work and was obviously into me. I mentally made the decision to go home and kinda stuck to it I guess.
The next day my wingman who was at the same vincity as us told me that after I left she was asking loads of questions about me.
The girl is in my to-do list now, I need to go over to John Lewis and get this girls number and move things forward. I’m gonna go approach her next time I’m in oxford street and ask for her number afc style.
I failed the mission, I think. I couldn’t venue change. But I #-closed 2 girls. I found this challenge very tough because I don’t have much game so I found it generally a bit difficult to get a girl to change locations with me.
I tried to do a very quick crash course on Juggler Method and try and learn as much as I can and complete the mission. I opened sets, got commitment from them and just generally vibed and tried to push for a venue change.
I got along very well with one girl, and I said “we should go grab a coffee together!”, but I didn’t lead, and left it for her to respond. Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! She even said ‘yes we should’. But I wasn’t convinced it was a strong Yes, or a polite yes. She told me she’d like to go for a coffee some other day though.
She LJBF’d be on the close by adding “hey you know what, it would be great if you could come and work with us, we need an accountant” [I’m a trainee accountant], I think she changed the context of the close from a seductive close into a formal close, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, time limit up, I couldn’t push for a close, I met up with a couple of wings in Leicester square and we had great fun as usual running loads of sets.
On the way home on the train I decided to mess around a bit, I saw a girl who looked familiar to me, it’s almost like all the girls look familiar now, cos I’ve approached so many girls now, so I didn’t let her familiar looks bother me.
Tiger: Hey, how you doin? [like Joey from friends]
Her: Heeeeeeey! [a bit too friendly]
Tiger: You’re really friendly have we met before?
Her: Yes!
Tiger: Really?
Her: Yes, hahaha
Tiger: Where have we me before? Sorry I get to meet loads of people every day I can’t recall exactly how we met
Her: Well, you approached me at work and asked for recommendations for a special gift for special someone.
At this point I’ve realised that I’ve approached her before, I went inside John Lewis one day and asked her for advice on buying a vibrator for a female colleague, and that I want to get a rampant rabbit [the king daddy of vibrators] but was a bit intimidated by it’s size.
Tiger: Hahahahahahahaha
Tiger: so how’s it like working for John Lewis
Girl: Blah Blah…..
Tiger: That’s really cool, I’m not really like that I’m not a very sociable person, I could never survive in a job like that [being sarcastic],
Girl: [buys into sarcastic role] Yeah I get that vibe from you, you don’t look very sociable
Girl: fluff,
I’m getting loads of IOI’s from her at this point, can’t remember exactly what I did, but it involved a lot of C+F and teasing.
Couple of minutes later I realise I’m going the wrong way [I was heading home], I’ve gone as far as 2 stops the wrong direction. FUCK! SO I quickly cut the conversation short and say bye and leave. I should have stayed and carried on, cos I would have got my coffee date, the girl was on her way home from work and was obviously into me. I mentally made the decision to go home and kinda stuck to it I guess.
The next day my wingman who was at the same vincity as us told me that after I left she was asking loads of questions about me.
The girl is in my to-do list now, I need to go over to John Lewis and get this girls number and move things forward. I’m gonna go approach her next time I’m in oxford street and ask for her number afc style.
Saturday, December 30, 2006
day 16
Task: approach a girl in a coffee shop and ask to sit with her for coffee, sit down talk to her and finish the coffee and leave if you wish.
Man, this was a tough one, but looking back at it now. I can do it any time now, however when I was doing it felt very painful. It was reminiscent of the times when I moved school and I had to make new friends, and had to ask people if I could hang out with them.
I felt that emotion at the time. I shouldn’t have looked at it that way, because I projected that belief through my body language and they could sense it, and were probably weirded out from it.
I approached 2 sets, first set were 2 girls. I walked up and said, “hey guys we should have coffee together!”. The girls both looked at each other, then the alpha chick smiled and said “who are you with?”, I said “I am alone”. Then she said “OK, sit here” and cleared a chair next to her.
I had 0 power in this interaction, and felt like such a chump. It was a weird experience, that I don’t want to repeat it (in that fashion), but I am glad I experienced it which will help my game. We had a pleasant conversation, entirely non-sexual. I was in LJBF from the start. But I did it!!!
The second set was OK, it was a lone set. I approached the same way, she was a bit uncomfortable and allowed me to sit down. The crap part was that there was one dude, sitting quite close on a table near by. Who refused to look away, what a creepy voyer guy!
Man, this was a tough one, but looking back at it now. I can do it any time now, however when I was doing it felt very painful. It was reminiscent of the times when I moved school and I had to make new friends, and had to ask people if I could hang out with them.
I felt that emotion at the time. I shouldn’t have looked at it that way, because I projected that belief through my body language and they could sense it, and were probably weirded out from it.
I approached 2 sets, first set were 2 girls. I walked up and said, “hey guys we should have coffee together!”. The girls both looked at each other, then the alpha chick smiled and said “who are you with?”, I said “I am alone”. Then she said “OK, sit here” and cleared a chair next to her.
I had 0 power in this interaction, and felt like such a chump. It was a weird experience, that I don’t want to repeat it (in that fashion), but I am glad I experienced it which will help my game. We had a pleasant conversation, entirely non-sexual. I was in LJBF from the start. But I did it!!!
The second set was OK, it was a lone set. I approached the same way, she was a bit uncomfortable and allowed me to sit down. The crap part was that there was one dude, sitting quite close on a table near by. Who refused to look away, what a creepy voyer guy!
Wednesday, December 27, 2006
Day 15
Task: Ask 30 women out for coffee, without any expectation to actually go and drink coffee with them and if #-close is on the table, to delete the number straight away afterwards.
I don’t know what this business of deleting the number straight away was all about; I guess it’s purely psychological, so that the student goes in with the attitude of not caring about results.
This mission was my demon, and I was determined to bust through this. I went out on boxing day to do this but failed, I went home after doing 10 approaches, putting my ego on the line like this was too much for my inner game to bear.
Having completed it today with flying colours I have to say that it was nothing to do with me personally, just that the environment wasn’t suitable. The timing and the venue etc.
I experimented with various ways of doing this mission; I started of with “do you know what we should do? We should go get coffee together”, I don’t know why but I got immediate rejection from it, and no chance of even an afc conversation about it. I didn’t get why there was so much hostility.
So then I changed it to “hey why don’t we go for coffee and sex”. I’m not going to even comment on the reaction I got from that.
There were various different variations of it, it’s amazing how your choice of words have such a big impact on the reaction. In the end I stuck to a situational/direct sort of opener. It went like this:
“hey after you’ve finished [activity], why don’t we go grab some coffee”
where [activity] is what they are doing at the moment.
Examples
“hey after you’ve finished shopping, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
“hey after you’ve finished playing the slots, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
“hey after you’ve finished working, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
I got nothing by positive reactions from that, not positive in the sense that I got a yes. (I got a No at all times I have to say), but they all had a big smile on their face when I said that. I think it was more my delivery than anything. I walked in with a very emotionless face, and then slowly slowly as I delivered the opener I had a smile on my face. After I finished saying it they started smiling too.
The reason why I say I got a positive reaction is that, the girl automatically opens up, it’s something she doesn’t experience that often. Sure she might say NO, which is expected, but it’s put her at easy, she sees me as a fun guy. Who seems to have experience with women, cos only a guy with a lot of confidence and experience with women would have the balls to run an opener like that.
It’s one of my best openers so far I have to say, it’s so quick and effective and gets the girl to open up immediately. You can easily turn afc and use question trains like “what’s your name?”, “where are you from?”, “what are you doing here?” etc. It simply won’t matter because you the opener says a thousand things about you and DHV’s you so much. Such as
• Leader, although I’m asking her out for coffee, the way I am saying it suggests that I am in control and a dominant male, it’s more of a statement rather than a question.
• Fun guy – the smile, the unusually direct opener
• Confident
• Friendly guy
• And so much more
I found that the set hooks so fucking easily, the point of this opener isn’t to expect a positive reaction from her 99% of the times the girl will say no. But the point of this opener is that it makes a STATEMENT about me as a person. I can change threads and ask anything I like after that, i.e. “where are you from?” etc, and she will give me an honest answer and it won’t be a closed answer because she is in a happy mood. And will be willing to allow me to probe her. Which I have did.
So I have completely annihilated this mission after failing it on the first attempt, examining it now, I can truly say that I didn’t fail the mission cos I was a pussy I failed it because of the environment at the time. For sure.
Tiger
I don’t know what this business of deleting the number straight away was all about; I guess it’s purely psychological, so that the student goes in with the attitude of not caring about results.
This mission was my demon, and I was determined to bust through this. I went out on boxing day to do this but failed, I went home after doing 10 approaches, putting my ego on the line like this was too much for my inner game to bear.
Having completed it today with flying colours I have to say that it was nothing to do with me personally, just that the environment wasn’t suitable. The timing and the venue etc.
I experimented with various ways of doing this mission; I started of with “do you know what we should do? We should go get coffee together”, I don’t know why but I got immediate rejection from it, and no chance of even an afc conversation about it. I didn’t get why there was so much hostility.
So then I changed it to “hey why don’t we go for coffee and sex”. I’m not going to even comment on the reaction I got from that.
There were various different variations of it, it’s amazing how your choice of words have such a big impact on the reaction. In the end I stuck to a situational/direct sort of opener. It went like this:
“hey after you’ve finished [activity], why don’t we go grab some coffee”
where [activity] is what they are doing at the moment.
Examples
“hey after you’ve finished shopping, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
“hey after you’ve finished playing the slots, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
“hey after you’ve finished working, why don’t we go grab some coffee”
I got nothing by positive reactions from that, not positive in the sense that I got a yes. (I got a No at all times I have to say), but they all had a big smile on their face when I said that. I think it was more my delivery than anything. I walked in with a very emotionless face, and then slowly slowly as I delivered the opener I had a smile on my face. After I finished saying it they started smiling too.
The reason why I say I got a positive reaction is that, the girl automatically opens up, it’s something she doesn’t experience that often. Sure she might say NO, which is expected, but it’s put her at easy, she sees me as a fun guy. Who seems to have experience with women, cos only a guy with a lot of confidence and experience with women would have the balls to run an opener like that.
It’s one of my best openers so far I have to say, it’s so quick and effective and gets the girl to open up immediately. You can easily turn afc and use question trains like “what’s your name?”, “where are you from?”, “what are you doing here?” etc. It simply won’t matter because you the opener says a thousand things about you and DHV’s you so much. Such as
• Leader, although I’m asking her out for coffee, the way I am saying it suggests that I am in control and a dominant male, it’s more of a statement rather than a question.
• Fun guy – the smile, the unusually direct opener
• Confident
• Friendly guy
• And so much more
I found that the set hooks so fucking easily, the point of this opener isn’t to expect a positive reaction from her 99% of the times the girl will say no. But the point of this opener is that it makes a STATEMENT about me as a person. I can change threads and ask anything I like after that, i.e. “where are you from?” etc, and she will give me an honest answer and it won’t be a closed answer because she is in a happy mood. And will be willing to allow me to probe her. Which I have did.
So I have completely annihilated this mission after failing it on the first attempt, examining it now, I can truly say that I didn’t fail the mission cos I was a pussy I failed it because of the environment at the time. For sure.
Tiger
Tuesday, December 26, 2006
Day 14
Task: go out and make conversation with 30 women, but do not check them out sexually before, during or after an interaction.
This was a bit difficult to start off, I didn’t know what I could ask them. I went on Christmas eve – a flash of brilliance popped up in my head. I devised a good opener which goes like this
“Hey I need some quick recommendations from you, I thought I bought everyone’s Christmas gifts already, but I forgot to get something for my mum. I completely lost track of whose presents I’ve bought and whose I haven’t. Do you have any recommendations that you could give me”.
It was a good opener, and suited the situation, I talked to 30 girls… at first they weren’t very receptive on the approach, which was expected cos it was that time of the year when everyone is in a mad rush to complete the shopping, but as soon as I mentioned not getting anything for my mum a flash of excitement and a big smile painted their faces. It’s something that everyone can relate to I guess, and most of the girls were really helpful, one girl didn’t want me to go away she recommended me over 6 different perfumes and all the different places I can go and get them from, I’m repeating OK.. Ok… Ok.. Ok.. I’ll get it… Ok.. Ok… Ok.. LMAO!!
It was also very easy to keep the conversation going with this, I asked the girls what they bought their mum for Christmas, and busted their balls on it (mainly), if they bought their mums a cheap present.
I also approached a couple, I thought the girl was alone, I ran the opener on her and she hooked the guy darted it to intervene/AMOG, I engaged both of them immediately as I got the chance and the guy slowly drifted away again, he bought my opener! Damn I’m smooth!! Then I started trying to go for a personal vibe and ask her about what she got her mum, she was on holiday and was away from her home. I responded “Oh no, how can you do that, why didn’t you post something to her!!!!” etc
I tried it again with 2 girls, the chode walked in later in my set. Why the fuck does that always happen to me?? So I’m in set talking about Christmas, the season in general and my mum, and their mums, and this guy starts trying to break the set up and interrupting my flow. My fault really for ignoring him, He was being a retard he kepy saying every 5 seconds or so.
“why dont you get her a jumper”
“why dont you get her shoes”
“why dont you get her a handbag”
“why dont you get her perume”
I lost patience and said in a firm voice “DUDE, just chill, I need a female perspective, are you a female?”.
I kept changing the opener over time, by the end of it became really weird and it didn’t even make sense.
Tiger: “Hey I need some quick recommendations on what perfume I can buy for my mum, the shops are closing very soon”
Girl: “errm this is a clothing store”
Tiger: “I know but I’m going to a perfume store now can you give me a recommendation you look like you smell nice”
Girl: [confused] “errm OK, why don’t you go ask the clerk in the perfume store..”
Tiger: Cool, thank you, I didn’t think of that.. God bless
I guess I was in too much of a rush to think straight, it was Christmas even and I needed to end this mission as quickly as I can and go home.. have a shower.. and get ready to meet with some friends for the ice skating… which if you must know I was absolutely shit at. I used the lessons I learnt in pickup to try and get good in ice skating… I kept persevering, never admit to failure.. I fell over very bad at least 12 times. I just got up and tried again.. and again.. and again.. After the 30 minute session, I got pretty good. I couldn’t game anyone in the ring, most of the peeps were with family. Also we only got 30 mins in the ring cos the girl who organised the event turned up very late with the tickets, we all had to wait for her.
This was a bit difficult to start off, I didn’t know what I could ask them. I went on Christmas eve – a flash of brilliance popped up in my head. I devised a good opener which goes like this
“Hey I need some quick recommendations from you, I thought I bought everyone’s Christmas gifts already, but I forgot to get something for my mum. I completely lost track of whose presents I’ve bought and whose I haven’t. Do you have any recommendations that you could give me”.
It was a good opener, and suited the situation, I talked to 30 girls… at first they weren’t very receptive on the approach, which was expected cos it was that time of the year when everyone is in a mad rush to complete the shopping, but as soon as I mentioned not getting anything for my mum a flash of excitement and a big smile painted their faces. It’s something that everyone can relate to I guess, and most of the girls were really helpful, one girl didn’t want me to go away she recommended me over 6 different perfumes and all the different places I can go and get them from, I’m repeating OK.. Ok… Ok.. Ok.. I’ll get it… Ok.. Ok… Ok.. LMAO!!
It was also very easy to keep the conversation going with this, I asked the girls what they bought their mum for Christmas, and busted their balls on it (mainly), if they bought their mums a cheap present.
I also approached a couple, I thought the girl was alone, I ran the opener on her and she hooked the guy darted it to intervene/AMOG, I engaged both of them immediately as I got the chance and the guy slowly drifted away again, he bought my opener! Damn I’m smooth!! Then I started trying to go for a personal vibe and ask her about what she got her mum, she was on holiday and was away from her home. I responded “Oh no, how can you do that, why didn’t you post something to her!!!!” etc
I tried it again with 2 girls, the chode walked in later in my set. Why the fuck does that always happen to me?? So I’m in set talking about Christmas, the season in general and my mum, and their mums, and this guy starts trying to break the set up and interrupting my flow. My fault really for ignoring him, He was being a retard he kepy saying every 5 seconds or so.
“why dont you get her a jumper”
“why dont you get her shoes”
“why dont you get her a handbag”
“why dont you get her perume”
I lost patience and said in a firm voice “DUDE, just chill, I need a female perspective, are you a female?”.
I kept changing the opener over time, by the end of it became really weird and it didn’t even make sense.
Tiger: “Hey I need some quick recommendations on what perfume I can buy for my mum, the shops are closing very soon”
Girl: “errm this is a clothing store”
Tiger: “I know but I’m going to a perfume store now can you give me a recommendation you look like you smell nice”
Girl: [confused] “errm OK, why don’t you go ask the clerk in the perfume store..”
Tiger: Cool, thank you, I didn’t think of that.. God bless
I guess I was in too much of a rush to think straight, it was Christmas even and I needed to end this mission as quickly as I can and go home.. have a shower.. and get ready to meet with some friends for the ice skating… which if you must know I was absolutely shit at. I used the lessons I learnt in pickup to try and get good in ice skating… I kept persevering, never admit to failure.. I fell over very bad at least 12 times. I just got up and tried again.. and again.. and again.. After the 30 minute session, I got pretty good. I couldn’t game anyone in the ring, most of the peeps were with family. Also we only got 30 mins in the ring cos the girl who organised the event turned up very late with the tickets, we all had to wait for her.
Sunday, December 24, 2006
Day 13
Today’s exercise was to go to strip club and not look at or engage myself in a conversation with any of the girls there.
I decided to occupy my time in a strip club by writing out the blog entry for this mission on a notepad. Since I was alone, and I wasn’t going to be looking at the girls, what else was there for me to do? Stare at a blank spot on the wall?
Ok so here what I jotted down
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OK so I’m at this pole-dancing club called BROWNS, by myself, it’s a weird experience. I am writing this on my notepad as we speak. At this point I have absolutely no idea why I am asked to do this mission, from what is happening/taking place now, in my head, I think this has absolutely nothing to do with the strippers themselves, I would say this is more about not caring or giving a shit about what other people think of me, even though I am sticking out like a sore thumb. As I am writing this, there is a public pole dance where a girl came before hand and collected £1 for.
All the guys in this place are standing up watching a girl bare all to an admiring crowd, whilst I’m sitting near the back of the bar sitting down writing this out. There are huddles of strippers sitting down and drinking behind me, I have my back towards them. They must be thinking why the fuck is this guy in a strip club writing in his notebook and not watching the dance which he paid £1 for? Or they’re probably not even registering my existence. Who knows?
I am not talking to anyone I am bogged down staring into my notepad, I am starting to feel very uncomfortable right now I am occupying a whole table to myself, 1 table out of 3 that isn’t taken up by the girls. Almost all the guys are standing up and I am getting occasional glances from everybody now and then, but I don’t care I am deep in my head thinking “what is the whole purpose of this? What am I supposed to learn?”
It quite hard to look away from the stage, but I am managing, after every public dance a girl comes round to take a pound from me for the performance. I try not to look at them, keep it short – pull out the pound and pass it over.
I can see from the corner of my eye that the strippers are glancing into my pad as the come to collect the money, but they’re refraining from enquiring about it because I’m not engaging them in any way.
Ok just now for the 5th collection one girl just asked me what I am writing down.
Stripper: hey what are you doing? Are you writing your memoir about tonight or something
Me: No I am a psychology student, I am doing a report on the differences between male and female sexuality and how women behave in artificial situations. I am on a roll now so I can’t talk, seeya!
Stripper: wow that’s really interesting, good luck!
So I’ve stayed in this sleazy place for an hour now behaving very awkward, I still don’t know what the point of this was. I hope it starts to make sense on the later mission. I am beginning to feel that this will start to build up to a massive mission something on the same sort of calibre as Steve Piccus’ newbie challenge where he gets his students to walk around with a dildo attached to their heads. Or Sharks mission where he gets his students to rob a store.
I leave the place after the 5th public dance, I’ve stayed here for an hour now, as I walk past the girl whose asked me what I am doing is about to perform – she’s wiping the bar clean. She’s eye-balling me as I walk away.
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Ok so this was what I wrote down at the time, I just realised I was probably making quite an impression on the girls, I was pimped out with my sarging gear because I was in field for a couple of hours with the guys beforehand. I was very chilled and relaxed, taking a whole table to myself. With my jacket on one chair and my foot on axis of another chair. I was completely in my zone doing my own thing and not caring about the strippers. Whilst all the other guys were standing around with huddled up near the stage. With pint glasses held up right in front of them.
I was analying the guys in the place, how the low value guys would stare at the strippers whilst they were talking to other guys. It was absolutely pathetic.
I think, if I could go back and do this mission again, I would go to a proper strip joint where the strippers actively come and approach and talk to guys.
I decided to occupy my time in a strip club by writing out the blog entry for this mission on a notepad. Since I was alone, and I wasn’t going to be looking at the girls, what else was there for me to do? Stare at a blank spot on the wall?
Ok so here what I jotted down
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OK so I’m at this pole-dancing club called BROWNS, by myself, it’s a weird experience. I am writing this on my notepad as we speak. At this point I have absolutely no idea why I am asked to do this mission, from what is happening/taking place now, in my head, I think this has absolutely nothing to do with the strippers themselves, I would say this is more about not caring or giving a shit about what other people think of me, even though I am sticking out like a sore thumb. As I am writing this, there is a public pole dance where a girl came before hand and collected £1 for.
All the guys in this place are standing up watching a girl bare all to an admiring crowd, whilst I’m sitting near the back of the bar sitting down writing this out. There are huddles of strippers sitting down and drinking behind me, I have my back towards them. They must be thinking why the fuck is this guy in a strip club writing in his notebook and not watching the dance which he paid £1 for? Or they’re probably not even registering my existence. Who knows?
I am not talking to anyone I am bogged down staring into my notepad, I am starting to feel very uncomfortable right now I am occupying a whole table to myself, 1 table out of 3 that isn’t taken up by the girls. Almost all the guys are standing up and I am getting occasional glances from everybody now and then, but I don’t care I am deep in my head thinking “what is the whole purpose of this? What am I supposed to learn?”
It quite hard to look away from the stage, but I am managing, after every public dance a girl comes round to take a pound from me for the performance. I try not to look at them, keep it short – pull out the pound and pass it over.
I can see from the corner of my eye that the strippers are glancing into my pad as the come to collect the money, but they’re refraining from enquiring about it because I’m not engaging them in any way.
Ok just now for the 5th collection one girl just asked me what I am writing down.
Stripper: hey what are you doing? Are you writing your memoir about tonight or something
Me: No I am a psychology student, I am doing a report on the differences between male and female sexuality and how women behave in artificial situations. I am on a roll now so I can’t talk, seeya!
Stripper: wow that’s really interesting, good luck!
So I’ve stayed in this sleazy place for an hour now behaving very awkward, I still don’t know what the point of this was. I hope it starts to make sense on the later mission. I am beginning to feel that this will start to build up to a massive mission something on the same sort of calibre as Steve Piccus’ newbie challenge where he gets his students to walk around with a dildo attached to their heads. Or Sharks mission where he gets his students to rob a store.
I leave the place after the 5th public dance, I’ve stayed here for an hour now, as I walk past the girl whose asked me what I am doing is about to perform – she’s wiping the bar clean. She’s eye-balling me as I walk away.
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Ok so this was what I wrote down at the time, I just realised I was probably making quite an impression on the girls, I was pimped out with my sarging gear because I was in field for a couple of hours with the guys beforehand. I was very chilled and relaxed, taking a whole table to myself. With my jacket on one chair and my foot on axis of another chair. I was completely in my zone doing my own thing and not caring about the strippers. Whilst all the other guys were standing around with huddled up near the stage. With pint glasses held up right in front of them.
I was analying the guys in the place, how the low value guys would stare at the strippers whilst they were talking to other guys. It was absolutely pathetic.
I think, if I could go back and do this mission again, I would go to a proper strip joint where the strippers actively come and approach and talk to guys.
Day 12
Ok today’s mission is to eat something I really hate, something that will make me sick to my stomach. I have loads of food which I dislike the taste of but none which will actually make me sick. I also have a very high tolerance to pain so this task would be a breeze for me.
I know some guys who've ate dog food for this mission, I would've done the same but I only eat halal meat (I'm Muslim) so that was out of the question.
So I decided to eat the tops of a whole broccoli (raw) and some lettuce for dessert. Eating lettuce wasn't too bad. I have to say, I mean it's pretty normal for humans to eat lettuce (I hate vegetables). But eating the raw broccoli was hard I have to say, the stuff was so fucking bitter I could’ve thrown up at any time.
My gag reflex wouldn't let me swallow, so I kept chewing and chewing, the more I chewed, the more the juices kept coming out of the greens and the more bitter it became, it was so bad that saliva was dripping out of my mouth as I was chewing and I wasn't even trying to stop it.
Archer says the reason for this mission is to expand the students horizons I don't know how doing this will help me, I cannot see what benefit I will gain from doing this, I’ll put my trust on archer on this one.
Perhaps it's just a lay-up to another mission which will spring out from this one. Or maybe it's just a way of getting me to commit to the program. so I fell like I've invest so much into this so that I don't punk out later on, and carry on no matter what lies ahead
I had broccoli breath for 2 hours after eating this.
I know some guys who've ate dog food for this mission, I would've done the same but I only eat halal meat (I'm Muslim) so that was out of the question.
So I decided to eat the tops of a whole broccoli (raw) and some lettuce for dessert. Eating lettuce wasn't too bad. I have to say, I mean it's pretty normal for humans to eat lettuce (I hate vegetables). But eating the raw broccoli was hard I have to say, the stuff was so fucking bitter I could’ve thrown up at any time.
My gag reflex wouldn't let me swallow, so I kept chewing and chewing, the more I chewed, the more the juices kept coming out of the greens and the more bitter it became, it was so bad that saliva was dripping out of my mouth as I was chewing and I wasn't even trying to stop it.
Archer says the reason for this mission is to expand the students horizons I don't know how doing this will help me, I cannot see what benefit I will gain from doing this, I’ll put my trust on archer on this one.
Perhaps it's just a lay-up to another mission which will spring out from this one. Or maybe it's just a way of getting me to commit to the program. so I fell like I've invest so much into this so that I don't punk out later on, and carry on no matter what lies ahead
I had broccoli breath for 2 hours after eating this.
Day 11
Task: Go out somewhere, where there are loads of women around, and do not look at any women.
This is a frustrating excercise, I succeeded in it - but hated the fact that I had to actively look away from women. This was very different to what I have been doing for the past 10 days. I've realised how instinctive it is for a guy to look and check out women. I had to constantly look away - just as I was slowly moving towards looking at a woman that took my fancy at the corner of my eye.
I went out in field 2 hours, hit the womans departments of loads of clothing stories, and walked around. Errm what else to say? Nothing much really.
This is a frustrating excercise, I succeeded in it - but hated the fact that I had to actively look away from women. This was very different to what I have been doing for the past 10 days. I've realised how instinctive it is for a guy to look and check out women. I had to constantly look away - just as I was slowly moving towards looking at a woman that took my fancy at the corner of my eye.
I went out in field 2 hours, hit the womans departments of loads of clothing stories, and walked around. Errm what else to say? Nothing much really.
Thursday, December 21, 2006
Day 10
Ask 30 women for the time and be completely emotionless.
This was a tough one, I kinda cheated in a way, cos I went and asked women in shops, well women are women right? I asked a few people from the public, it was very disheartening, the vast majority of the women responded by saying 'sorry I don't have the time'. I know they were lying. Because if we were to go strictly by percentages, the proportion of women who have the time on them should be the same. I learnt that your state really matters, forget PU for a second, even asking for the time requires you to have some enthusiasm at least. This is a big ah-ha moment for me
This was a tough one, I kinda cheated in a way, cos I went and asked women in shops, well women are women right? I asked a few people from the public, it was very disheartening, the vast majority of the women responded by saying 'sorry I don't have the time'. I know they were lying. Because if we were to go strictly by percentages, the proportion of women who have the time on them should be the same. I learnt that your state really matters, forget PU for a second, even asking for the time requires you to have some enthusiasm at least. This is a big ah-ha moment for me
Day 9
Approach 10 women for each of the three exercises done on days six, seven and eight.
I was starting to geet tired of this excercise, like really badly. I consdiered quitting cos I have no clue where all this was leading to at this point.
I was starting to geet tired of this excercise, like really badly. I consdiered quitting cos I have no clue where all this was leading to at this point.
Day 8
Ask 30 women for the time and be excited to hear their answer no matter what it is.
I responded with "WOWWWW IT'S 7:30 ALREADY, TIME FLIES SO QUICKLY", very weird and very uncalibrated. The girls reaction was money, they mostve thought, WTF???
I responded with "WOWWWW IT'S 7:30 ALREADY, TIME FLIES SO QUICKLY", very weird and very uncalibrated. The girls reaction was money, they mostve thought, WTF???
Day 7
Ask 30 women for the time while visualizing her telling you she wants to fuck you after you ask for the time.
I'm love BJs, I just stared at their lips whilst they were digging for their phones/looking a tthe watch. Then their lips moved.... awwww maaaaan!
I'm love BJs, I just stared at their lips whilst they were digging for their phones/looking a tthe watch. Then their lips moved.... awwww maaaaan!
Saturday, December 16, 2006
Day 6
Todays task was to go up to 30 women and ask for direction to the post office, whilst visualising that they are telling me to fuck off and slapping me around the face (my fears of the worst possible outcome), easier said than done. Because I kept forgeting to visualise it happening.
This is getting quite mundane... I wish these boring missions are over soon.
This is getting quite mundane... I wish these boring missions are over soon.
Friday, December 15, 2006
Day 5
Today was a bit tricky, I had a long day at work and I was sort of drained for the lack of sleep I have been getting since Monday (today is Friday).
Under normal circumstances I would have not gone out and just chilled at home. But I had to do it, I would never forgive myself for being a failure if I were to ruin the cycle so soon.
Anyway the task was to approach 30 women and open with a compliment. It wasn't very easy. The first set just totally fucked up my state - I should have done a few warmup sets with indrect beforehand. Anyway I approach my first set very uncomfortably my voice and BL just give everything away. it screamed NEWBIE. I opened with "hey I like your scarf it looks really nice". This other girl standing close to her just burst out laughing. I felt like shit so I ejected with "have a nice evening".
I had to work my state up slowly, but eventually got there and after 5 or 6 approached I got into the flow. My confidence increased again and I've had a few sets that even hooked. It's nothing new to report really. When I get a number close then i'll post details of the full interaction.
I'm very tired now as I write this. Had a long week, this challege is taxing my energy very bad (in a good way). I've slept for 6 hours each night since the challenge begun so I'm goingto spend my firday night indoors and catch up with the sleep.
Tiger
Under normal circumstances I would have not gone out and just chilled at home. But I had to do it, I would never forgive myself for being a failure if I were to ruin the cycle so soon.
Anyway the task was to approach 30 women and open with a compliment. It wasn't very easy. The first set just totally fucked up my state - I should have done a few warmup sets with indrect beforehand. Anyway I approach my first set very uncomfortably my voice and BL just give everything away. it screamed NEWBIE. I opened with "hey I like your scarf it looks really nice". This other girl standing close to her just burst out laughing. I felt like shit so I ejected with "have a nice evening".
I had to work my state up slowly, but eventually got there and after 5 or 6 approached I got into the flow. My confidence increased again and I've had a few sets that even hooked. It's nothing new to report really. When I get a number close then i'll post details of the full interaction.
I'm very tired now as I write this. Had a long week, this challege is taxing my energy very bad (in a good way). I've slept for 6 hours each night since the challenge begun so I'm goingto spend my firday night indoors and catch up with the sleep.
Tiger
Thursday, December 14, 2006
Day 4
Todays mission was to go out and ask 30 women directions to the post office. It was a bit of a piss task. I went to my usual tourist area where there is no post office at all. Just loads of shops and shoppers. I got some of the funniest looks from the women - one girl said "you know what nobody has ever asked me that around here".
I approached 30 in an hour, I got a bit bored of this task and drifted away.. a few times. Looking at the shops.
I get really chilled, and asked like 3 women in the same vincity one after another (I counted that as one approach). I got so relaxed that I even tried to steal a £5 voucher from a books etc. (a bookshop). The clerk was organising the contents of her draw and had some gift vouchers on the counter, I approahced and asked about a book, while she was looking up the book I quickly grabbed a voucher and put it in my pocket. A male clerk rushed from beside and said, I'm sorry can you give that back? It's not for you to take. I responded "OMG you're so rude, I thought it was free for customers, why do you have it lying around on the counter for". I completely reframed the situation and put the blame back on them. I would never have done that in normal situations, dunno what was going through my mind then.
There's nothing special to report for this mission, I could have done something a bit more useful with my time to be honest.
I learnt a few things though.
I approached 30 in an hour, I got a bit bored of this task and drifted away.. a few times. Looking at the shops.
I get really chilled, and asked like 3 women in the same vincity one after another (I counted that as one approach). I got so relaxed that I even tried to steal a £5 voucher from a books etc. (a bookshop). The clerk was organising the contents of her draw and had some gift vouchers on the counter, I approahced and asked about a book, while she was looking up the book I quickly grabbed a voucher and put it in my pocket. A male clerk rushed from beside and said, I'm sorry can you give that back? It's not for you to take. I responded "OMG you're so rude, I thought it was free for customers, why do you have it lying around on the counter for". I completely reframed the situation and put the blame back on them. I would never have done that in normal situations, dunno what was going through my mind then.
There's nothing special to report for this mission, I could have done something a bit more useful with my time to be honest.
I learnt a few things though.
- to keep my distance away from the target when initially talking to her, until she comes closer.
- speak slow, half the time when I think I'm being blown out, I'm not really, women get approached all the time - they have little time for guys (so you better make sure you make an impression first time round), if they can't hear me first time round, usually instead of askig to repeat myself they'll just say 'no' or something retarded like that. Even if I've asked an open ended question.
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Day 3
Task was to approach 40 couples in about 40 minutes (ish); completely ignore the guy, and ask for the time. I did 40 in an hour, I think I done more actually. But I discounted the approaches where the guy addressed me first + the girl disacknowledged me.
I thought this might be easy. But then moments before the actual approaches I felt a lot of approach anxiety. But after a few approaches I got confident and took it easy. I have never approached a girl with a guy before., so it was something new, I'm starting to realise now that each step will be a giant leap from now on. But I'm loving every minute of it.
After I got going.. I found this task to be easier than the first 2 because I was doing this after work, on the streets during the night. Women are obviously very cautions about guys asking for times and stuff [it's a tourist area and muggings do occur]. But when women were with guys they were more comfortable and more receptive.
Some of the guys reactions were priceless, there was 1 guy with 2 girls, I walked past them and later decided to approach, however if I was to approach directly I would get the guys attention first which is not what i want. So I walked all the way round and came in at an angle where I was facing the girls head on. I comepltely disregarded the guy and talked over him and asked the girls for the time. The dude was pissed!! OMG the look on his face! He later tried to be clever and give me the wrong time, the girls were having none of it and corrected him- which made him look like even more of a tool. I could have sarged them easily there, but I decided to continue the mission.
Most of the times the guys would give me the time - even though I asked the women. I think it was a protective thing, to get rid of the foreign guy ASAP any way they can.
There were 2 instances where the guy and girl both walked away from me and told me they dont have time. Both the times I saw the couple about 20 metres away and ask directly. Oh yeah did I tell you I had both my watch visabily displayed and my mobile phones handsfree clipped onto my shirt? I was asking for the time with both of these on all the time. Anyway I think when I approached my target directly from a distance it did scare the poo poo out of them. Learning experience.
This is what happend once. I approach the couple from 15 meters away - I walk directly into them.
Me: Do you know the time?
Girl: [she has her phone out] No sorry I don't.
Me: [turn to guy and ask him]
Guy: Sorry I don't
Me: OMG how can people NOT have the time on them, thats so retarded!
Guy: [put his arms around his girl, shielding me away.. about to walk off]
Me: [I re-engage] Are you scared of me or something? Are you worried I'm going to mug you?
Guy: [stutters...] No.... I.. Err....
Me: Oh is it that you just don't like talking to strangers, is that what it is?
Guy: What's you problem?
Girl: We're just minding our own business.
Me: Oh sorrrrrry [sarcastically said], I was just asking for the time, I didn't realise it was so much for you. You guys are so weird..
Me: [walking away... then look back and say..] Seriously you guys are very funny people, enjoy your evening.. and Merry Xmas!
Tiger
I thought this might be easy. But then moments before the actual approaches I felt a lot of approach anxiety. But after a few approaches I got confident and took it easy. I have never approached a girl with a guy before., so it was something new, I'm starting to realise now that each step will be a giant leap from now on. But I'm loving every minute of it.
After I got going.. I found this task to be easier than the first 2 because I was doing this after work, on the streets during the night. Women are obviously very cautions about guys asking for times and stuff [it's a tourist area and muggings do occur]. But when women were with guys they were more comfortable and more receptive.
Some of the guys reactions were priceless, there was 1 guy with 2 girls, I walked past them and later decided to approach, however if I was to approach directly I would get the guys attention first which is not what i want. So I walked all the way round and came in at an angle where I was facing the girls head on. I comepltely disregarded the guy and talked over him and asked the girls for the time. The dude was pissed!! OMG the look on his face! He later tried to be clever and give me the wrong time, the girls were having none of it and corrected him- which made him look like even more of a tool. I could have sarged them easily there, but I decided to continue the mission.
Most of the times the guys would give me the time - even though I asked the women. I think it was a protective thing, to get rid of the foreign guy ASAP any way they can.
There were 2 instances where the guy and girl both walked away from me and told me they dont have time. Both the times I saw the couple about 20 metres away and ask directly. Oh yeah did I tell you I had both my watch visabily displayed and my mobile phones handsfree clipped onto my shirt? I was asking for the time with both of these on all the time. Anyway I think when I approached my target directly from a distance it did scare the poo poo out of them. Learning experience.
This is what happend once. I approach the couple from 15 meters away - I walk directly into them.
Me: Do you know the time?
Girl: [she has her phone out] No sorry I don't.
Me: [turn to guy and ask him]
Guy: Sorry I don't
Me: OMG how can people NOT have the time on them, thats so retarded!
Guy: [put his arms around his girl, shielding me away.. about to walk off]
Me: [I re-engage] Are you scared of me or something? Are you worried I'm going to mug you?
Guy: [stutters...] No.... I.. Err....
Me: Oh is it that you just don't like talking to strangers, is that what it is?
Guy: What's you problem?
Girl: We're just minding our own business.
Me: Oh sorrrrrry [sarcastically said], I was just asking for the time, I didn't realise it was so much for you. You guys are so weird..
Me: [walking away... then look back and say..] Seriously you guys are very funny people, enjoy your evening.. and Merry Xmas!
Tiger
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
Day 2
Nothing new or much different to report really. Today I had to go round and the same sort of thing, but this time with a watch on (visibly displayed) or a phone in the hand. I did both. I asked 50 women in 1 hour. It was getting bored so I quit after an hour. Also I did this after work, I was pretty tired so didnt want to drain all my energy.
I also have similar problems, approaching women on the street (pretty dark) was harder for me and women tend to feel more self-conscious outdoors I think. I did a few on shopworkers - they were too easy to approach so I decided to stop approaching them half way to make it harder for myself.
Will report back soon
Tiger
I also have similar problems, approaching women on the street (pretty dark) was harder for me and women tend to feel more self-conscious outdoors I think. I did a few on shopworkers - they were too easy to approach so I decided to stop approaching them half way to make it harder for myself.
Will report back soon
Tiger
Monday, December 11, 2006
Day 1
I am experimenting with a product called demonic confidence by archer sloan. The product consists of different tasks for each day. for 21 days.
For task 1 - was pretty straight forward really. Go out an ask random women for the time. Aim to ask 1 woman per minute, for a minimum of 30 mins and maximum of 2 hours.
Initially I thought I'd skip this step, but later decided to go with the program. I am used to cold approaching women naturally. So I thought it would be a doddle - to ask for the time. I actually found it harder than expected. I was scaring the living daylight out of some of the women, and I felt sort of bad for scaring them, and having them run away from me.
I think maybe it was due to the timing, it was 6pm (december) and was very dark, I asked women on the streets first, 9/10 of the women refused to give the time, maybe they thought I was going to rob them or something. It was understandable. I am 6'2" and was wearing a long navy peacoat with torn designs. Who wouldn't be scared?
SoI decided to walk into shops, libriaries, mini-malls, and hit the tourist places. I took the train (subway for yanks) Which cost me 30 mins. Once I hit the touristy places it was pretty easy, more people were around and girls felt more secure I think. I also calibrated a lot, I decided to keep my distance and talk louder. The difference in their reaction was almost magical.
I asked 40 women in just under 2 hours (110 mins), minus the tube journey would be 80 mins, which isnt that bad, 1 woman ever 2 minutes.
I can understand why Archer placed a limit of 2 hours, because towards the end I got BORED.
This task in my view was awesome, I can understand why the program creators chose this. Right from the start the program is getting guys to get used to demanding stuff from women. Which was always hard for me to do being a former 'nice guy'.
OK the second part of the tasks requires me to jot down what I want from this
I want to be able to walk up to a woman, and be able to have a fun conversations with me and be hooked into me like chick crack. I want her to want me so much that she's constantly trying to hang out with me.
I want to have a series of girlfriends who I consider to be 9's and 10's no less.
I want to be the heart and soul of the party and not be the 'bystander' or the dude on the side.
I wan to have more friends, I want friends wherever I go.
I want to use these social skills to befriend both guys and girls, I want to it to help me in business and just generally being able to get people to warm to me much more.
I want these social skills to help me generate wealth and have the kind of abundance where I can freely distribute it amongst my close friends.
I want to be famous.
For task 1 - was pretty straight forward really. Go out an ask random women for the time. Aim to ask 1 woman per minute, for a minimum of 30 mins and maximum of 2 hours.
Initially I thought I'd skip this step, but later decided to go with the program. I am used to cold approaching women naturally. So I thought it would be a doddle - to ask for the time. I actually found it harder than expected. I was scaring the living daylight out of some of the women, and I felt sort of bad for scaring them, and having them run away from me.
I think maybe it was due to the timing, it was 6pm (december) and was very dark, I asked women on the streets first, 9/10 of the women refused to give the time, maybe they thought I was going to rob them or something. It was understandable. I am 6'2" and was wearing a long navy peacoat with torn designs. Who wouldn't be scared?
SoI decided to walk into shops, libriaries, mini-malls, and hit the tourist places. I took the train (subway for yanks) Which cost me 30 mins. Once I hit the touristy places it was pretty easy, more people were around and girls felt more secure I think. I also calibrated a lot, I decided to keep my distance and talk louder. The difference in their reaction was almost magical.
I asked 40 women in just under 2 hours (110 mins), minus the tube journey would be 80 mins, which isnt that bad, 1 woman ever 2 minutes.
I can understand why Archer placed a limit of 2 hours, because towards the end I got BORED.
This task in my view was awesome, I can understand why the program creators chose this. Right from the start the program is getting guys to get used to demanding stuff from women. Which was always hard for me to do being a former 'nice guy'.
OK the second part of the tasks requires me to jot down what I want from this
I want to be able to walk up to a woman, and be able to have a fun conversations with me and be hooked into me like chick crack. I want her to want me so much that she's constantly trying to hang out with me.
I want to have a series of girlfriends who I consider to be 9's and 10's no less.
I want to be the heart and soul of the party and not be the 'bystander' or the dude on the side.
I wan to have more friends, I want friends wherever I go.
I want to use these social skills to befriend both guys and girls, I want to it to help me in business and just generally being able to get people to warm to me much more.
I want these social skills to help me generate wealth and have the kind of abundance where I can freely distribute it amongst my close friends.
I want to be famous.
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